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主耶穌就是神自己，那主耶穌在禱告的時候，怎麼還禱告父神呢？這裡面肯定也有奧祕吧，請你們給交通交通。

解答：主耶穌禱告父神，稱天上的神為父，這裡面的確有奧祕啊！神道成肉身，就是神的靈隱藏在肉身裡，肉身根本感覺不到，就像我們感覺不到自己裡面有靈的存在一樣，另外，神的靈在肉身裡面也不作超然的事，這樣，主耶穌雖然是道成肉身，如果神的靈不發聲說話見證神自己，他肯定也不會知道自己是道成肉身的神，所以，聖經裡說到「子也不知道，惟有父知道」（可13：32）這話。主耶穌在沒有作工盡職分之前，都活在正常人性裡，他根本不知道自己就是神道成的肉身，因為神的靈在肉身中作工不超然，完全正常，就像人自己正常做事一樣。所以，主耶穌自然要向天父禱告，也就是主耶穌在人性裡向神的靈禱告，這是很自然的事。當主耶穌正式盡職分時，聖靈就會發聲說話，見證他就是道成肉身的神，這時主耶穌才知道他的真實身分，知道他來是要作救贖的工作，但當他要被釘十字架時，他還要禱告父神，這就說明，基督的實質是絕對順服神的。

我們再來讀兩段全能神的話，對這個問題就會更清楚了。全能神說：「耶穌當時禱告時稱天上的神為父，只是站在一個受造的人的角度上稱呼的，只因為神的靈穿上了一個普通正常的人，有了一個受造之物的外殼，儘管他的裡面是神的靈，但他的外表仍是一個正常的人，也就是成了所有人所說的，包括耶穌自己說的『人子』。既說人子，就是出生在一個普通正常人家中的人（或男或女，總之都是人的外殼）。所以，耶穌稱父就如你們起初稱天上的神為父是一樣的，是站在一個受造的人的角度上稱呼的。你們還記得耶穌教你們背的主禱文嗎？『我們在天上的父……』他讓所有的人都這樣稱呼天上的神為父，既然他也稱天上的神為父，那他就是站在一個與你們平等地位的角度上來稱呼天上的神的。你們既這樣稱呼天上的神為父，那耶穌就把自己看為與你們平等地位的、神在地所揀選的一個人（即神的兒子），你們若稱神為父，不也是因為你們是受造之物嗎？不管耶穌在地的權柄有多大，但在他未釘十字架以先，他仍是一個受聖靈（即神）支配的人子，是屬於地上受造之物中的一個，因為他未完成工作，所以，他稱天上的神為父，這只是他的卑微與順服。但他這樣稱呼神（即天上的靈）並不能證明他就是天上的神的靈的兒子，只是站的角度不同，並不是位格不同，根本沒有位格這樣的謬理！耶穌未釘十字架以先是一個受肉身限制的人子，並沒有靈的全部權柄。所以，他只能站在受造之物的角度上來尋求父神的心意，正如他在客西馬尼園的三次禱告，『要按著你的意思來，不要按著我的意思來。』在未上十字架以先，他只是猶太人的王，是人子，是基督，並不是榮耀的身體，所以，他得站在受造之物的角度上來稱神為父。」「還有人說，神不是明說耶穌是他的愛子嗎？『耶穌是神的愛子，是神所喜悅的』，當然是神自己說的，那是神自己作自己的見證，只不過是站在另一個角度上來見證他自己，是在天上站在靈的角度上來見證他所道成的肉身。耶穌是他道成的肉身，並不是他在天上的兒子，你懂嗎？耶穌說的『父在我裡面，我在父裡面』不就指原是一位靈嗎？不就是因著道成肉身分割天之上下嗎？其實還是一，不管怎麼樣，就是神自己作自己的見證。因著時代不同，因著工作需要，因著經營計劃的步驟不一樣，所以說人對他的稱呼也不一樣。第一步來作工只能稱耶和華，是以色列人的牧者，第二步只能稱道成肉身的神是主、是基督。但當時天上的靈只說是神的愛子，並沒說是神的獨生子，這說法根本沒有，神怎麼能有獨生子呢？這樣神不就成了人了嗎？因著是道成肉身，所以，他稱為神的愛子，這樣，就有了父與子的關係，只是因為天地之別的緣故。」（摘自《話在肉身顯現·三位一體的神存在嗎？》）

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